Conversation as Material

This episode treats conversation itself as material.

Gandy: https://www.gandy.cc/art

Dared: https://dared.art/

Rather than approaching dialogue as explanation or commentary, the recording documents two artists speaking in real time — allowing uncertainty, digression, repetition, and unfinished thought to remain intact. The focus is not on conclusions, but on how meaning forms through speech, pause, disagreement, and alignment.

The episode sits between discussion and audio work: not a podcast episode in the traditional sense, and not a statement. It functions as a trace of thinking - shaped by context, proximity, and time.

Themes that surface include:

• Conversation as process rather than communication

• Language as a working medium

• Misunderstanding, overlap, and interruption

• Authorship within shared space

• Speaking without resolving

The recording resists clarity as an end goal. What matters here is continuity - how ideas circulate, stall, or change when spoken aloud between artists.

📍 Recorded in Berlin

🎙️ Audio-first, minimally edited